#26 2007-04-13 08:57:19
- supertrainer
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Re: Increasing Vertical
when you leave the ground your jump is not over you must come down,decelerate this very important would you drive a car fast with poor brakes? jump soles should be called junk soles,stay away from leg press,leg curls ,leg extension these are very poor choices they do not move the way the body does the muscle firing pattern is wrong they cause muscle imbalances. rember activate the glutes single leg squats then squat squat squat and lunge lunge lunge.
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#27 2007-04-17 08:43:12
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Re: Increasing Vertical
Once again I agree. Supertrainer is a stud(dette)!?! Increasing vertical comes from working on either touching a very high point, say a 10 foot rim, multiple times from an athletic position ( squat ) over a short amount of time.
Drill 1 - Start in squat with shoulders behind knees, knees behind toes, not on your toes only in a balnced but hip loaded stance. Without bending forward any more than where you are, jump as high as possible. Very important to land in same squat position. Once you regain balance and stability, jump very high again. I would suggest you jump until fatigue - point where a rep. cannot be performed w/o compromising form and technique. Repeat until you can no longer attain a desired height. For instance, try to touch the rim while doing this drill. If you are young either try for the net or go against a wall with a marked spot.
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#28 2007-05-04 18:58:21
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once you leave the ground your work is half over, you must come down aka decelerate! no ankle weights, NO TIM GROVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#29 2007-05-22 21:25:21
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Re: Increasing Vertical
id suggest to always try and walk on your tipi toes to work you calfs out and do a lot of calf raises
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#30 2007-06-22 13:58:41
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Re: Increasing Vertical
E you said u had Luke Lowry's double your vert jump program. Can you send it 2 me at gbpackersfan6 if i send u my 1 rep maxes?
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#31 2007-07-27 12:12:05
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Re: Increasing Vertical
djprecision how much did the jumpsoles cost
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#32 2007-07-28 18:05:24
- marlinsgirl94
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Re: Increasing Vertical
I need major help!!!!! I don't really know what the heck these work outs are all about!! If somebody could please please please help me leave me a message or something because I AM SO CONFUSED and I really need to make the team!!!
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#33 2007-08-12 13:42:31
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Re: Increasing Vertical
To improve my vertical I use Jumpsoles. You can find them here: http://www.jumpusa.com/p14.htm
They are $70. It comes with a workout plan that explains all the exercises so it's not too complicated. You only use Jumpsoles twice a week so it's not very time consuming either. However you can also use the Proprioceptor to work one some balance and calf muscles up to 5 times a week. I enjoy doing this program so you might want to check it out. If this is too expensive and/or not what you are looking for let me us know and we can tell you some good exercises to do such as squats and calf raises.
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#34 2007-11-12 19:28:39
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Re: Increasing Vertical
hey guys wasup i need help for my vert i mean wen i jump i can touch the bottem of the rim wit my finger tips btu i want to jump higher is there any natral excersises excluding wieghts that i can get more inchs on my jump??? if so reply to this or e mail me at Geicopipes@aol.com thanx
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#35 2008-03-05 21:13:20
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Re: Increasing Vertical
Guys - plyometric exercises in the pool offer a great low impact strength workout to increase your vertical through using the resistance of the water - also you can get aquatic training shoes to increase resistance and add support in the pool: www.aqxsports.com or call at 1-800-203-1276 - NBA teams currently training in the pool with the AQx products include Bucks, Blazers, Timberwolves, Cavs, Celtics, Hawks, Grizzlies, Jazz - you can check out Greg Oden's rehab in the AQx shoes here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lvp2rZajN_w
Here are some basketball specific workouts you can do in the pool: http://aqxsports.com/information.php?id=8
Let me know if you have any questions
Thanks
DG
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#36 2008-07-02 15:06:57
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Re: Increasing Vertical
marc_da_man wrote:
If you want to add resistance a weighted vest would be much more safe, reliable, durable, and wouldnt effect form during most drills/exericses. I have heard of many joint injuries believed to have come from ankle weights. Though i guess it depends on how you use them.
the best thing to use for resistance is actually a weighted belt since ankle weights hurt your knees and the weighted vest actually messes up your neurological timing
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#37 2008-07-02 15:10:54
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Re: Increasing Vertical
jorge24 wrote:
id suggest to always try and walk on your tipi toes to work you calfs out and do a lot of calf raises
calves arent the main muscle in the vertical leap it goes in this order 1. thighs 2. glutes 3. calves
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#38 2008-09-27 17:23:12
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Re: Increasing Vertical
If you really want to improve your Vertical jump and sprinting speed, first you need to figure out what type of Jumper you are, a power jumper or a leaper, as using optimal biomechanics is just as important as having explosive muscle power. Next you need to figure out what type of power or strength you are lacking. The three basic types of strength are: Base strength, transitional power, and explosiveness or "Reactive" power, they are all different and must be trained in different ways. Now I know a lot of you are wondering what's the difference between the three. Well in short Base Strength is how much weight you can move, Transitional Power is how fast you can move said weight and explosiveness is the maximum speed and distance you can move said weight with each single movement. A good Vertical Jump training routine will include the following exercises:
Base Strength
1: Traditional Squats and Pistol Squats
2: Deadlifts/base building olympic lifts
3: Lunges
4: Core Work (Functional Performance Core Strength= The ability to make your pelvis and spine "lock" and work as a single stable unit, not simply having a 6 pack or being able to do 100 crunches)
5: Stretching
Transitional Power:
1: Box Squats/Tempo Squats
2: Power Cleans
3: Push Press
4: Core Work
5: Stretching
Explosiveness:
1: Ballistic and jump squats
2: Traditional and Compound/Hybrid Plyometrics
3: Sprinting
4: Core Work
5: Stretching
You'll also want to figure out which individual muscles/muscle groups are working inefficiently. You can figure this out by completing a full vertical jump test progression and a baseline fitness test to diagnose any muscle imbalances that you may have. Remember no matter what type of training program you do you must make sure that opposing muscles are strengthened and balanced (e.g. Quads and hamstrings, abs and lower back) so don't skip the quad extensions and hamstring curls. If opposing muscles are not strengthened they will lead to weak links, energy leaks and imbalances will result in poor poor or slow improvement and raise the risk of injury significantly. Do a routine that combines plyomertic/bodyweight, free weight and or acceleration routines. Make sure you are consuming lots of protein to aid in muscle repair after tough workouts You'll also want to replenish your bodies ATP and glycogen stores as they are the fuel for those type IIa and type IIb muscle fibers you will be (AKA FG and FOG) shredding during your workout. In order to gain inches you'll need to tax your central nervous system and force your body to create new motor pathways. If you train correctly you should gain at least an inch a week.
Vids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PxcPllTyRA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_BdgjtSYmo
http://www.program51.com
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#39 2008-11-10 18:47:09
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Re: Increasing Vertical
After reading SLAM last week, which is one of my favorite magazines, I noticed several advertisements for vertical jump programs; created by guys claiming to be experts at improving a player’s explosiveness and athletic ability. Since I had never heard of any of these guys it prompted me to do a quick internet search and I found dozens and dozens of similar sites selling programs, gizmos, gadgets, and even pills that promised to deliver unbelievable improvement in one’s vertical jump. As a veteran strength & conditioning coach, it is obvious to me most of these sites and their creators are completely bogus. I actually found myself laughing out loud at some of the claims they made.
After researching further, it is my professional opinion that nearly every one of these programs is a sham. Theses are not credible strength coaches or performance specialists; they are simply con artists who are trying to trick honest kids out of hard earned money. And that is absolutely unacceptable in my eyes.
As a legitimate, long time basketball strength & conditioning coach as well as someone who has a valid, justifiable vertical jump training program on the market (the MVP program), these guys give people like me a bad rap. Their approach is sleazy and unprofessional and it makes me sick to think they make money swindling kids who are desperate to jump higher and improve their game. I don’t ever want to be mentioned in the same sentence as these hacks.
I am not going to name specific names, programs, or websites and this blog is not directed at anyone in particular, I am just taking aim at this group of con artists as a whole and want to expose them and their fallacies.
The claims these sites make are unbelievable. Some guarantee an increase in vertical jump of 8-12 inches in a matter of weeks. Others claim they will double your vertical jump, or better yet, get your vertical to 40 or 50 inches. But I will go more in depth on their claims towards the end of this post.
For someone to make such outlandish promises, they must be the best of the best, right? But after reading each site extensively, most of their “resumes†were paper thin. Most made claims to have worked with high level players, although not one recognizable player was ever named. Most made claims they have helped hundreds or even thousands of athletes, but where is the proof?
So I started to ask myself, what is their real resume? Who have they really worked with? Do they really even train athletes on a day to day basis or do they just pretend they do? I have worked as a full time private, professional strength & conditioning coach for the last 10 years, so I take grave offense to someone with an empty mug shot and phony resume claiming to be an expert in a field that I work so hard in.
Then I started asking myself a ton of other questions:
Why are all of their testimonials from people no one has heard of? How come most of the testimonials neglect to include the person’s last name or high school or some other way to truly identify them? How come these programs don’t have any recognizable athlete testimonials? I am well aware you do not have to work with NBA players or high profile players to be a quality strength coach or expert in vertical jump, but seriously, if their programs did what they claim, don’t you think just one noteworthy player would have used their services and been proud to say so? And what gives some of these guys the right to call themselves a vertical jump expert? How legit are the pictures they use? How do I know that is a 10 foot rim? How do I know they didn’t jump off of a bench to dunk like that?
And if you think their resumes and testimonials are a hoax, you should see the claims they make regarding the results you will get. As a real life strength & conditioning coach, I believe the results they claim are absolutely, positively not possible for 99% of the players in the world. A 50 inch vertical jump? An increase of 12 inches in 4 weeks? Touching your head on the rim when you are 5’7†?
Don’t believe me? Do you actually think a 50 inch vertical is really possible to attain for 99% of players?
I went online and looked up the results from the last two year’s NBA combines (2007 and 2008). These standardized tests were administered by the NBA’s top strength & conditioning coaches, guys with real experience and educational backgrounds. Their first test, the “No Step Vertical Jump†is measured accurately on a Vertec device and is done to standard - no shuffle step, no side step, no drop step and no gather step was allowed, just straight down and straight up.
Keeping the above guidelines in mind, guess how many guys in the past two year’s NBA Combine had a 50 inch vertical jump? NONE. Guess how many had a 40 inch vertical? NONE. Not one player broke 40 inches on this particular test. Not even guys who are known for their hops: Jerryd Bayless, Al Thornton, Michael Beasley, or Derrick Rose. And these are the best players (and in many cases, the best athletes) in college basketball. For their second test, the “Max Vertical Jump†, the athlete was allowed to take as many steps toward the Vertec as they felt necessary to acquire their maximum vertical jump. Everyone was required to start within the 15’ arch and each athlete had the choice of a 1 or 2 foot takeoff. Even using this protocol, only 8 out of 160 players (5%) got above a 40 inch vertical, with 42 being the highest. And that was with a running start!!! I am sure if you look at the previous 10 years of NBA combine results you will see a similar pattern. If the best and most athletic college basketball superstars, who have been training under the watchful eye of proven college strength coaches aren’t jumping 50 inches, I’m supposed to believe that any kid off the street will be able to achieve that after following one of these vertical jump programs? Is that a joke?
One of the main reasons they trick so many kids is because they offer a money back guarantee, which is nothing more than a false sense of security. Let me tell you, as soon as you see “money back guarantee†on any type of workout product or program, you must question its credibility. NOTHING in this world is guaranteed. NOTHING. And to paraphrase Chris Farley in the movie Tommy Boy, “the only reason they have a guarantee is because they know they sold you a guaranteed piece of crap!†So why do they offer it? Because studies have shown time and time again that hardly anyone ever takes them up on their offer and asks for their money back because it is an actual admittance of failure. It well worth the risk for them to offer a money back guarantee because they know no one will actually do it. It is a ploy to move product. My parent’s taught me when I was very young, if something looks too good to be true, it almost always is.
I don’t offer a money back guarantee on my MVP program. You know why? If you don’t get results, it is your fault, not mine. I know the program works; I have used versions of it with thousands of players. I also don’t make any promises for results. Some folks will make much better gains than others. The only thing I know is that if a person does the program, they will improve. How much they improve is dependent upon their genetics, their starting level, and their effort and consistency. Period.
Another reason I know most of these programs are counterfeit is because all of their websites have the exact same look; same layout, same color scheme, same rhetorical questions. This is because most of these guys have taken classes or read books from the same internet marketing people. And these people are experts at designing sites to trick folks into buying their product. These con artists spend more time on their computer working on their site than they do actually training players!
They spend hours and hours “writing copy,†which means they follow a specific template on what to write. Therefore all of their info follows the same pattern. They come up with a catchy headline. Then they list several problems their perfect customer has (can’t jump, no time, no money, etc.). Then they list several benefits to dispute these problems. Then they think of a few reasons why someone would not buy their product or program and then have an “answer†to that. It is called, “identify problem… agitate…. solve by using their program.†These guys are merely wordsmiths who prey on kids insecurities and they rely on the fine print to make it legal.
Don’t believe me? Go check out the sites yourself. They usually start off with a letter directly to you. Then they say this will be the most important thing you ever read. Then they make several ridiculous claims. Then they sprinkle in some questionable testimonials. Then they act like they don’t even want your business if you aren’t 100% serious or committed. Then they act like they are giving a huge discount. Then they start tacking on FREE stuff. Blah, blah, blah.
Now let’s kick some truth. The truth is your genetics do dictate your potential to jump. Muscle fiber type and CNS efficiency are just two examples of traits that will ultimately determine how high you can jump, both of which are nearly impossible to see just by looking at someone. Not everyone can have a 30 inch vertical, much less a 40 or 50. Not everyone will be able to dunk a basketball. Not everyone has the ability to play in college, must less the NBA. Period. We were all born with different abilities and potentials. Everyone can improve their vertical jump, but not everyone can achieve the results these spinsters claim. In fact, hardly anyone can.
Now, I don’t want to get accused of being hypocritical. I am proud of the fact that HoopsKing and I created and sell the MVP DVD, a 12 week vertical jump program (www.Vertical-Jump-Program.com), of which I make a modest royalty on. I am the first to admit that is part of how I make my living, in addition to training players full time. I stand by the fact the info in that program is legitimate and I make no guarantee on results. I know as a real strength coach; the results will be different for everyone. However, I have full confidence that if a player follows the program consistently, with great effort, and is accurate and progressive, they will make gains. For some that might mean 6 inches, for someone else 3. But at least it will be real! Also, I didn’t wake up one morning and proclaim myself a vertical jump expert. I have a solid educational background and 10 years of real life work experience on my resume, including work with Kevin Durant, Michael Beasley, Montrose Christian HS, the Nike Skills Academies, the Jordan All American Classic, and the McDonalds All American game.
I would love to hear your feedback on this, whether you agree with me or not.
Feel free to email me at Alan@StrongerTeam.com.
Alan Stein, CCS, CSCS
www.StrongerTeam.com
Below are actual claims I have seen made. Please note the misspellings and incorrect grammar is on their end, not mine!
• “If you've been wanting to dramatically, easily, and quickly enhance your athletic ability, so you'll dominate the competition and hold the capability of performing effortless magical plays, I've got the most important letter you'll ever read. Just take a minute and read below to see how you can crush your frustrating lack of athletic ability problems once and for all.â€
• “How would you like to know exactly how to develop court dominating power, sick athleticism, rock sold strength, and 'Highlight Reel producing" quickness?â€
• “I've helped athletes who didn't even have a lick of experience at the time and turned them into basketball heroes within weeks!â€
• “Now You Can Discover the Power House Secrets that Can Easily Get You Flying Through the Air and Doing Electrifying Dunks!â€
• “If you would like to learn what the pro's do to jump higher, become quicker, develop explosiveness, increase strength and improve overall athletic ability and performance…then this new program is just what your looking for!â€
• “The 12 Super Secrets that will almost "instantly" increase your vertical leaping ability. These 12 secrets are so powerful they're guaranteed to increase your vertical by a minimum of 9 inches!â€
• “Are you ready to explode off the ground and finish breaks with rim-rocking two handed monster dunks?â€
• “Small research laboratory stumbles upon "vertical leap in a tablet" formula that -- for the very first time -- allows above-the-rim gains for the average, bench-warming baller.â€
• “Explosive Lab-Tested And Doctor-Approved Discovery Biologically Forces Even Hard-Gainers To Unleash Rapid Vertical Jump Gains Of Up To 5 Inches In Just 15 Days!"
• "What follows below explains the most amazing, non-steroidal discovery to impact the athletic world, ever!"
• “Forget old-school plyometrics... if you are one of the 99.2% of ballers born with "inferior genetics", then this will easily be the most important discovery of your life because this new formula, forcefully and unfairly can re-wire your central nervous system and supercharge your muscular power... for straight up-and-down vertical jump gains of 10 inches or more... all without the use of "jumping programs" or "platform shoes"...â€
• “If you can touch the net, I guarantee you can dunk.â€
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#40 2009-09-24 13:24:29
- dowork15
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Re: Increasing Vertical
what exercises does the vertical project use?
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